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søndag 13. januar 2008

Craig Winn: Prophet of Doom

Vil man have en kritisk gennemgang af de religiøse kilder islam er baseret på, så kommer man ikke udenom Craig Winns formidable Prophet of Doom. Det hele er lagt online (html eller pdf) inkl. tillægsbind, og kan også downloades som lydbog (mp3). De dovne kan med fordel bruge bogen som opslagsværk.

  • ProphetofDoom – Table of contents (kapitlerne som pdf).
  • ProphetofDoom – Audio Version (lydbog, kapitlerne som mp3).
  • ProphetofDoom – Muhammad’s Own Words (citat-register).
  • I naturlig forlængelse af George Carlins ‘hån, spot og latterliggørelse’ af religionerne, er dele af Prophet of Doom glimrende. Her lidt fra Would You Believe? (kap. 1), hvor forfatteren ironiserer over en række selvmodsigelser.

    “Tabari I:199 “I heard the Prophet say: ‘The first thing created by Allah was the Pen. Allah said to it: “Write!” The Pen asked, “What shall I write?” Allah replied, “Write what is predestined.”‘” I’ll give Muhammad a pass on the talking pen because it makes no less sense than a talking earth. But this I’ve got to know: if the pen knew all that was predestined, why didn’t it know what Allah wanted it to do?

    Tabari explains, Tabari I:202 “There are people who consider predestination untrue. Then they consider the Qur’an untrue…. People merely carry out what is a foregone conclusion, decided by predestination and written down by the Pen.” They actually believe this stuff. And that’s because this passage was crafted to explain the Qur’an’s 68th surah called: “The Pen.” “I [Allah] call to witness the Pen and what it inscribes.” Without the Hadith, you wouldn’t know what “Pen” god was talking about.

    The second verse is delicious. The Lord is possessed to tell his lone prophet: Qur’an 68:2 “You are not demented, demon possessed, or mad.” Then he says, “There is surely an unending reward for you.” That “reward” became the means, method, and motivation for creating, staffing, and promulgating Islam.

    The following Bukhari Hadith confirms Islam’s lack of choice and Muhammad’s dearth of prophetic credentials. Bukhari:V4B55N549 “Allah’s Apostle, the true and truly inspired said, ‘As it relates to your creation, every one of you is collected in the womb of his mother for the first forty days, and then he becomes a clot for an other forty days, and then a piece of flesh for an other forty days [a four-month gestation isn't even half right]. Then Allah sends an angel to write four words: He writes his deeds, time of his death, means of his livelihood, and whether he will be wretched or blessed.’”

    Moving on, the Pen gathers rivals for its pole position in the race of creation. Tabari I:204 “I asked the Prophet, ‘Where was Allah before His creation.’ Muhammad replied: ‘He was in a cloud with no air underneath or above it.’” A cloud without air, now there’s one for the science classes. “Then Allah created His Throne upon the water.” If there were clouds, water, and a throne – how did the Pen come first?

    I’m sure the prophet will clear this up, so let’s listen to a Hadith from one of his Companions. Like so many Traditions, this one is found in both Tabari and Bukhari. Tabari I:204/Bukhari:V4B54N414 “Some people came to the Messenger, entered his presence, and said: ‘Give us gifts.’ [Muhammad's militants were mercenaries. The prophet bribed his way to prosperity.] This continued until it annoyed him. Then they left. Some other people came in and said, ‘We have come to greet the Messenger of Allah and become knowledgeable about the religion and ask about the beginning of the world.’ He said, ‘Allah existed while there was nothing else. His Throne was upon the water, and all that was going to be was written on the memorial Tablet before anything else was created. Then Allah created the seven heavens.’ Just then, someone came to me and said, ‘That camel of yours is gone.’ I went out and found that she was out of sight. I surely wish that I would have let her go so that I would not have missed the rest of the Prophet’s remarks!”

    Okay, let me see if I understand this. The pen was created first but before it was created Allah created his throne. The throne was on water, which was yet to be created. Then we had writing on a tablet that had yet to be created so that Allah could tell us that there are seven heavens, which were created before or after the earth depending upon which version you believe. Bottom line: the camel’s gone. That’s about all we know for sure.

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    1. Kameler siges jo at være kloge dyr. Den havde nok lyttet ved teltdøren og ment, at den hellere måtte skride inden den også blev mistænkt for at være på stoffer.

      Kommentar af monse — søndag 13. januar 2008 @ 03:51

    2. the camel’s gone. That’s about all we know for sure.“

      Fed slutning, jeg griner stadig.

      Kommentar af Broholm (ordblind) — søndag 13. januar 2008 @ 09:46

    3. Prophet of Gloom.

      Kommentar af 2008 — søndag 13. januar 2008 @ 20:41

    4. Jeg har selv læst PoD, to gange. I første halvdel morer man sig kosteligt, fordi det hele er sådan en gang forvirret vrøvl, og Craig er ikke sen til at udpege tåbelighederne – som den forsvundne kamel.

      Anden del er værre. Den er dyster og morderisk, og man bevæger sig fra den ene katastrofe til den anden. Det er ikke morsom læsning. Men det er relevant, i allerhøjeste grad.

      Man kan være uenig med forfatterens stil, hvor han ikke lægger fingre imellem for at udpege dårligdommene, og indimellem tager nogle spring, der er en tand længere, end dokumentationen holder til.

      Heldigvis betyder det ikke noget videre for bogens helt store force, nemlig at man kommer hele vejen igennem Muhammeds livshistorie og de ‘hellige’ skrifter. Et par gange undervejs gør han ophold og understreger, at han ikke springer opløftende, ægte religiøst stof over. Jeg har tjekket hans kilder – det er sandt. Og det er jo lidt ubehageligt.

      Uanset Craigs lidt sjuskede stil og det fordømmende sprog er værket den bedste måde at få oversigt over Muhammeds liv og eksempel. Det giver sikkerhed for at man har været igennem det hele, vendt hver eneste sten. Med PDF’en ved hånden bagefter kan man altid finde et passende skriftsted til at svare på islamisters udfordringer.

      Jeg har brugt det til at drive Helen Latifi til vanvid på hendes blog – hun troede, jeg løj – men jeg kunne dokumentere alt ud fra hendes egne ‘hellige’ skrifter. Slutresultatet blev desværre, at jeg er ‘persona non grata’, uden at hun har tilbagevist et eneste citat, en eneste analyse af alt det, jeg har skrevet.

      Hun sidder sammen med Safia Aoude og Abdul ‘Stening’ Pedersen i bestyrelsen for Muslimer i Dialog. Foreningen burde hedde “Muslimer i Racistisk Monolog”, selv Rune Engelbreth Larsen fandt dem for langt ude. Forresten har de to kvinder samme holdning til stening som Abdul Wahid…

      Kommentar af Henrik Ræder Clausen — mandag 14. januar 2008 @ 02:19

    5. 4. Henrik

      Irriterende, men ret så typisk med Latifis reaktion :

      hun er nødt til at erklære dig uønsket på sin blog, idet hun – og andre muslimer af samme støbning- ikke kan smutte og blive væk, når hun/de er inde på andres blogs og ikke vil svare….. fordi de ikke kan !

      Disse mennesker fortjener hver eneste gang, de forsøger at belyve/ manipulere ikke-muslimerne, at blive tilbagevist med citater fra deres egen Koran,Hadith og Sunnah.

      Forøvrigt så er Latifi et halehæng til den stærkt manipulerende = løgnagtige Tariq Ramadan.

      Håber du- og mange,mange andre- fik købt dig WA for 3. uger siden, hvor der var et stort indlæg med en diskussion mellem Flemmeing Rose og Tariq Ramadan.

      Rose havde fat i den lange ende og Ramadan optrådte præcist som den manipulator han er berygtet for at være.

      Forleden havde – så vidt jeg husker- Veritas Universalis et indslag hvor det kom frem, at Ramadan skulle have udtalt sig i en intern kreds om, at hensigten med Euroislam IKKE skal frem før tiden er inde.

      Jeg skal prøve at finde linket frem.

      Kommentar af Vivi Andersen (islamofob) — tirsdag 15. januar 2008 @ 08:00

    6. der skulle have stået :

      SOM når hun/de er inde på andres blogs og ikke vil svare…. fordi de ikke kan!

      Kommentar af Vivi Andersen (islamofob) — tirsdag 15. januar 2008 @ 08:02

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