24. november 2021

PolitiFact fik sandheden censureret: ‘Was flagged as part of Facebook’s efforts to combat false news’

PolitiFact er ejet af Poynter-instituttet, der i 2015 etablerede ‘International Fact-Checking Network’ (IFCN), som godkender Facebooks og Googles samarbejdspartnere ud i faktatjek. PolitiFact sætter standarden, men en Pulitzerpris gør ingen forskel, sålænge problemet er ideologisk. Samarbejdet med Facebook omtales herunder.

(PolitiFact, 2020: I & II)

I: PolitiFact, 27. august 2020

“In an Aug. 27 post, one Facebook user said it was ‘perfectly legal’ for Kyle Rittenhouse — who was arrested in Antioch, Ill., after fleeing Wisconsin — to brandish an assault-style rifle on the streets of Kenosha.

‘Carrying a rifle across state lines is perfectly legal,” the poster said. ‘Based on the laws I can find of this area at 17 years old Kyle was perfectly legal to be able to possess that rifle without parental supervision.’

The post was flagged as part of Facebook’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook.)

… the Facebook post claimed that it was ‘perfectly legal’ for the teenager to carry an assault-style rifle in Kenosha. At best, that’s unproven. At worst, it’s inaccurate. Either way, we rate the post False.

II: PolitiFact, 30. august 2020

“In an Aug. 31, 2020 media briefing, on the eve of his visit to Kenosha, Trump defended Rittenhouse’s actions when asked about the teenager.

‘You saw the same tape as I saw,’ Trump said. ‘And he was trying to get away from them, I guess; it looks like. And he fell, and then they very violently attacked him. And it was something that we’re looking at right now and it’s under investigation.’ …

Trump’s comments completely overlook the fact that people started following him after he allegedly shot and killed someone. He also claimed protesters ‘violently attacked’ Rittenhouse, but that is not fully supported by the videos, either. …

Trump said a video shows Rittenhouse ‘was trying to get away from’ protesters’ and ‘fell, and then they violently attacked him.’

Rittenhouse did fall as a crowd followed him, but Trump’s comments leave an incendiary and false picture: By the time he fell, according to criminal charges, Rittenhouse had already shot and killed one person that night.

We rate the claim False.

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  1. Fake news igen. Men er 1.000 respondenter ikke umanerligt få i så stort et land?

    Rasmussen: Only 36 Percent Consider Media Coverage of Rittenhouse Trial Fair
    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/poll-kylerittenhouse-kenosha-trial/2021/11/23/id/1045926/

    The poll, which surveyed 1,000 likely voters, found when asked how fair coverage of the trial was, only 14% said it was “very fair,” with only 22% saying it was “somewhat fair.”

    However, a resounding 47% responded that they believe media coverage of the trial was “prejudiced against Rittenhouse.”

    Kommentar by tavsen — 24. november 2021 @ 04:50

  2. Når fact-tjekkerne konstant lyver kan Vi selvfølgelig ikke tro på dem?

    Alle de tosser kalder sig professionelle fact-tjekkere men som vender og drejer virkeligheden så det passer deres egen politiske historie er totalt værdiløse og direkte farlige.

    Sandheden er for længst blevet et spørgsmål om øjet der ser, derfor kan det ord ikke længere bruges til noget som helst. Det ord der dækker er VIRKELIGHEDEN og selv det ord presser tosserne så det bliver en løgn når det kommer ud af deres mund.

    Ærlighed er blevet en mangelvare så værn om den behandl den med værdighed.

    Kommentar by Santor — 24. november 2021 @ 05:24

  3. Faktatjek = censur.
    Den bruges altid mod højrefløjen, plus corona/vaccineskeptikere.

    Jeg mistænker en del gæster på Uriasposten for at støtte G. S-oros og den globale venstrefløjs bestræbelser på at afskaffe ytringsfrihed.
    https://nationalfile.com/george-soros-bankrolls-new-media-corporation-that-will-pay-journalists-to-fight-misinformation-control-local-news-outlets/
    A coalition of left-wing billionaires, including controversial hedge fund manager George Soros, are bankrolling a new media company according to a report on Tuesday from left-leaning outlet Axios. The report states that a “new public benefit corporation backed by billionaires Reid Hoffman, George Soros, and others is launching Tuesday to fund new media companies and efforts that tackle disinformation.”

    Kommentar by k.m. — 24. november 2021 @ 09:33

  4. Facebook sender tit notifikation hvor de skriver ca sådan her ” dit indlæg indeholder oplysninger vi MENER er falsk

    MENER holder ikke i retten, enten har de jura og fakta på plads, ellers skal de holde kæft.

    Den slags nålestiksoperationer er kun til for at skræmme bruger af sociale medier til selvcensur.

    Kommentar by k.m. — 24. november 2021 @ 09:45

  5. Der er åbenbart stadig folk på FB. Strange!

    Kommentar by Bastardo — 24. november 2021 @ 09:58

  6. https://principia-scientific.com/dr-roger-hodkinson-on-covid19-its-all-been-a-pack-of-lies/

    Alt det, medier, politikere og Big Pharma forsøger at skjule.
    Faktatjek = censur

    Vi ser det samme med kriminalitet, kultur og indvandring fra 3.verdens lande.

    Kommentar by k.m. — 24. november 2021 @ 10:08

  7. loomered(dot)com
    This publication was early to note and report Darrell’s ties to Black Lives Matter, and the fact that he used a vehicle to murder people in an act of vehicular jihad. Laura Loomer posted that the suspect was likely a black Muslim, and now we can exclusively confirm that Darrell Brooks is a supporter of The Five Percent Nation, otherwise known as the Nation of Gods and Earths (NGE or NOGE), a sub-sect of Nation of Islam (NOI).

    The Five Percent Nation is a black nationalist movement influenced by Islam. Members of the group call themselves “Allah’s Five Percenters”. The Fiver Percent Nation preaches black supremacy and teaches that black people are the original inhabitants of planet earth, and that the white man is an evil devil.

    The term “Five Percenter” comes from the “five percent” who are described in Nation of Islam in their “Lost-Found Muslim Leason No.2”.

    Kommentar by k.m. — 24. november 2021 @ 10:35

  8. Det er godt nok svært at føre en samtale, når “fact checker” Politifact aktivt producerer Fake News.
    This will not age well!

    Kommentar by Jørgen Nielsen — 24. november 2021 @ 10:35

  9. så må faktatjek specialisten Judas ud og finde nye kilder

    han blev taget med bukserne nede – igen igen

    kan ikke skelne sandt fra falsk

    Kommentar by k.m. — 24. november 2021 @ 10:44

  10. 2020 startede udskamning og latterliggørelse af bekymrede borgere.
    Faktatjek og censur blev rullet ud som del af strategien.
    Konspirationsteoretiker og sølvpapirshat – dømt på forhånd af gadens parlament.

    For præcis et år siden kørte diskussion og frygt for at borgere ville blive spærret inde eller modtage store bøder for at bryde “diktaturets” regler.

    Det blev desværre virkelighed, magthavernes faktatjek er intet værd.

    Kommentar by k.m. — 24. november 2021 @ 10:59

  11. censur sat i system

    https://igcd.org/
    The IGC brings together political leaders from around the world to help create a coordinated, international response to disinformation – an online challenge that knows no borders.

    Kommentar by k.m. — 24. november 2021 @ 11:52

  12. Er Kim i gang med hovedrengøring ?
    Jeg synes Judas og en masse af hans kommentarer er vasket af tavlen !!!

    Kommentar by k.m. — 24. november 2021 @ 11:56

  13. Alt ændrede sig med ankomsten af ……. det man ikke må tale om, det der hører til i off-topic

    https://nypost.com/2021/11/22/how-many-times-must-facebook-be-caught-censoring-the-truth/
    In 2019, Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg stood at Georgetown University and pledged to “fight to uphold as wide a definition of freedom of expression as possible,” promising in uncertainty to “err on the side of greater expression.” He went on, “I don’t think most people want to live in a world where you can only post things that tech companies judge to be 100 percent true.”

    Kommentar by k.m. — 24. november 2021 @ 12:18

  14. Leder af Judicial Watch, Tom Fitton skriver :
    If the decicion in the Rittenhouse case, had gone the wrong way, in my view, the first/second amendments would have been undermined, the violent left would have been vindicated/invigorated and your basic right to self-defence would have been eviscerated

    Kommentar by k.m. — 24. november 2021 @ 12:26

  15. Det er kæmpe problem når et privat firma (social medie) får magten til at påvirke et demokratisk valg.
    Hetz og faktatjek kostede Trump genvalg.

    Det er ligeledes problem når licensbetalte medier går fra at være nyhedsformidlere og “snushaner” til at være politisk aktive.

    Vi fik offentlighedsloven, men meget tys-tys, fik vi noget meget værre , noget mange ikke kender : påvirkningsloven
    læs om den her >
    https://leksikon.org/art.php?n=5277

    Kommentar by k.m. — 24. november 2021 @ 12:46

  16. ps til 12:46
    kvikke hoveder siger valget i USA blev købt, ikke stjålet

    Kommentar by k.m. — 24. november 2021 @ 12:55

  17. k.m. — 24. november 2021 @ 12:46

    Bruger du virkelig leksikon.org? Uhyggeligt mange år siden at selv DR ophørte med at bruge det. Der var simpelthen for meget uvederhæftig socialistisk propaganda. Tænk at kalde sådan noget for et leksikon? Som at kalde kommuniststyrede lande for demokratiske.

    Kommentar by tavsen — 24. november 2021 @ 13:05

  18. jeg kunne have valgt en anden kilde, dem er der jo mange af, pointen er at der blev lusket en lov igennem, som presser borgernes retssikkerhed.

    Kommentar by k.m. — 24. november 2021 @ 13:47

  19. https://www.document.no/2021/11/24/revealed-documents-show-bill-gates-has-given-319-million-to-media-outlets/

    Recipients of this cash include many of America’s most important news outlets, including CNN, NBC, NPR, PBS and The Atlantic. Gates also sponsors a myriad of influential foreign organizations, including the BBC, The Guardian, The Financial Times and The Daily Telegraph in the United Kingdom; prominent European newspapers such as Le Monde (France), Der Spiegel (Germany) and El País (Spain); as well as big global broadcasters like Al-Jazeera.

    Kommentar by k.m. — 24. november 2021 @ 14:00

  20. jeg kunne have valgt en anden kilde, dem er der jo mange af, pointen er at der blev lusket en lov igennem, som presser borgernes retssikkerhed.

    Kommentar by k.m. — 24. november 2021 @ 13:47

    Når der er mange af dem, hvorfor så promovere ensidige leksikon.org ??

    Kommentar by tavsen — 24. november 2021 @ 14:34

  21. Tavsen
    har du noget at sige om loven?

    eller er det bare flueknepperi om et link

    Kommentar by k. m. — 24. november 2021 @ 15:37

  22. Møller
    hvis du gør dig forhåbning om at komme i lære som fakta tjekker skal du nok stramme lidt op på din research.

    Når facebook sætter etiketten “False” på påstanden om “carrying a rifle across state lines is perfectly legal” I forb. med sagen mod Kyle Rittenhouse så er det altså fuldstændigt korrekt da det var lodret løgn.

    Wisconsins våbenlovgivning er helt klar i spyttet :

    “Any person under 18 years of age who possesses or goes armed with a dangerous weapon is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor”

    https://law.justia.com/codes/wisconsin/2013/chapter-948/section-948.60/

    Der er så enkelte undtagelser bl.a militærtjeneste men ingen af de få undtagelser ville kunne komme i betragtning i sagen

    Lovovertrædelse kan takseres med op til 9 måneders fængsel.

    Det mente den “upartiske” dommer så at han kunne se bort fra med argumentet:

    “I think the legislature just did a bad job and you have really, clumsy awkward wording,”

    Som jeg har forstået det så gør juridiske spidsfindige krumspring at sagen ikke kan ankes ved at stillingtagen til overtrædelse af våbenlovgivning aldrig blev en del af retsagen.

    https://eu.jsonline.com/story/news/2021/11/16/why-judge-rittenhouse-trial-dropped-gun-possession-charge/8640342002/

    https://news.yahoo.com/judge-dismisses-gun-charge-against-155900086.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAANgTaJXY-_cm3wwPdLj9BrCdSWGhdStdrL4n8AGhAxLUDtM3ZdPi-ypcasoigOM_3631cdx_F7F4s1LWaSqgAZas8-B8Y0BZBIkNENMrnMb1gsQYZNyey6I5BQTyb1ZbDP_HNNrWxrjVtehZjD4eCctbz-zFubeYxZM7UNBHir1J

    Kommentar by Per Henrik Rasmussen — 24. november 2021 @ 19:02

  23. Hele den lov kan læses her. Ingen grund til at nøjes med socialistisk resume

    https://www.ft.dk/samling/20181/lovforslag/l95/20181_l95_som_fremsat.htm

    Påvirkningsloven i går. For stemte 63 (S, V, LA, RV og KF)

    ALTSÅ de samme (-LA) som lavede Danmarks gravskrift i 1983, og den lov nødvendiggjorde altså Påvirkningsloven

    Dokumenter Samling 2018-19 (1. samling) lovforslag L 95 Som fremsat
    L 95 Forslag til lov om ændring af straffeloven.
    (Ulovlig påvirkningsvirksomhed).
    Af: Justitsminister Søren Pape Poulsen (KF)
    Udvalg: Retsudvalget
    Samling: 2018-19 (1. samling)
    Status: Stadfæstet

    Kommentar by tavsen — 25. november 2021 @ 02:43

  24. Alle “fact-checking” sider jeg kender til er biased i Venstreorienteret retning, så de er reelt ubrugelige.

    Hvis folk henviser til dem, har de afsløret sig selv.

    Kommentar by Peter Nielsen — 25. november 2021 @ 18:28

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